1 00:00:02,043 --> 00:00:04,683 Just wait until they come out. 2 00:00:04,723 --> 00:00:06,163 Wait till they stop. 3 00:00:08,083 --> 00:00:10,443 CAMERA SHUTTERS CLICK 4 00:00:19,923 --> 00:00:22,123 SHE SPEAKS QUIETLY 5 00:00:28,803 --> 00:00:32,003 I'm obviously delighted with the unanimous verdict given here today. 6 00:00:33,243 --> 00:00:36,163 The past four years have been very traumatic for myself 7 00:00:36,203 --> 00:00:39,563 and for the Falconio family, and to see justice done today 8 00:00:39,603 --> 00:00:41,443 eases a great burden for us all. 9 00:00:42,643 --> 00:00:44,963 I would like to thank the judge and jury 10 00:00:45,003 --> 00:00:49,803 for their careful consideration, patience and dedication. 11 00:00:49,843 --> 00:00:53,843 Finally, I would like Bradley John Murdoch 12 00:00:53,883 --> 00:00:58,963 to seriously consider telling me, Joan and Luciano and Pete's brothers 13 00:00:59,003 --> 00:01:00,643 what he has done with Pete. 14 00:01:01,803 --> 00:01:04,003 REPORTER: Luciano, what were your feelings 15 00:01:04,043 --> 00:01:06,403 when that guilty verdict was read out? 16 00:01:06,443 --> 00:01:08,123 Extremely happy. 17 00:01:08,163 --> 00:01:10,363 Very, very happy. 18 00:01:10,403 --> 00:01:14,403 This has been a very long and difficult period for all of us. 19 00:01:14,443 --> 00:01:19,323 The most important thing to my family now is to find Peter's body. 20 00:01:25,123 --> 00:01:28,923 Police in Australia say they fear the worst for a British tourist 21 00:01:28,963 --> 00:01:32,603 who disappeared after being attacked in a remote part of the outback. 22 00:01:32,643 --> 00:01:35,003 Peter Falconio was shot by a gunman 23 00:01:35,043 --> 00:01:38,523 who attempted to abduct his girlfriend Joanne Lees. 24 00:01:38,563 --> 00:01:41,923 The search for Peter Falconio goes on. 25 00:01:41,963 --> 00:01:44,843 The jury unanimously found Bradley John Murdoch 26 00:01:44,883 --> 00:01:47,563 guilty of murdering Peter Falconio. 27 00:01:47,603 --> 00:01:51,443 Bradley Murdoch will spend at least 28 years in prison. 28 00:01:51,483 --> 00:01:53,123 That's who did it. 29 00:01:53,163 --> 00:01:55,243 I definitely did not do it. 30 00:01:55,283 --> 00:01:57,243 I'm not a fucking murderer. 31 00:01:59,723 --> 00:02:02,043 This was a real Agatha Christie thriller. 32 00:02:03,203 --> 00:02:06,203 No-one really knew quite what had happened. 33 00:02:06,243 --> 00:02:09,483 He says, "Shut up and I won't shoot you." 34 00:02:09,523 --> 00:02:11,003 Why didn't she see the body? 35 00:02:11,043 --> 00:02:13,363 How do you even know he's dead? 36 00:02:13,403 --> 00:02:14,683 No-one doubts me. 37 00:02:14,723 --> 00:02:16,363 It's only media. 38 00:02:16,403 --> 00:02:19,923 We will find the key to this. 39 00:02:19,963 --> 00:02:23,563 The answer to this case lies in the police file. 40 00:02:23,603 --> 00:02:26,723 People that think they know the story probably don't. 41 00:02:26,763 --> 00:02:31,123 Bang! I'm looking straight at this bloke I've just seen in the paper. 42 00:02:34,963 --> 00:02:36,603 That's him, all right. 43 00:02:36,643 --> 00:02:37,923 Bad news, that bloke. 44 00:02:37,963 --> 00:02:40,643 I couldn't believe this had never seen the light of day. 45 00:02:40,683 --> 00:02:42,963 This case never goes away. 46 00:02:43,003 --> 00:02:44,843 It just sleeps for periods of time. 47 00:02:44,883 --> 00:02:46,643 Things like this just don't happen. 48 00:02:47,883 --> 00:02:50,083 Somebody knows what happened that night. 49 00:02:50,123 --> 00:02:51,563 Really knows. 50 00:02:53,843 --> 00:02:57,683 There is so much more to this story than people have ever imagined. 51 00:03:16,003 --> 00:03:18,843 I've always believed that the longer you spend on a story, 52 00:03:18,883 --> 00:03:21,443 the more it gives back to you. 53 00:03:21,483 --> 00:03:24,323 And that certainly applies in the Falconio case. 54 00:03:27,763 --> 00:03:32,363 It was Sunday, July 15th 2001. 55 00:03:32,403 --> 00:03:36,923 And it's always difficult finding a good Sunday-for-Monday story. 56 00:03:38,563 --> 00:03:41,723 I remember about 2:30 in the afternoon, 57 00:03:41,763 --> 00:03:45,763 a fax came through from the Northern Territory Police, 58 00:03:45,803 --> 00:03:50,323 and it was about a British couple backpacking around the outback, 59 00:03:50,363 --> 00:03:53,563 being held up by a gunman who apparently shoots one of them. 60 00:03:54,763 --> 00:03:57,283 And I instinctively saw it and thought, "That's a good story." 61 00:03:58,683 --> 00:04:02,803 I was one of the first few people to arrive and did a story 62 00:04:02,843 --> 00:04:05,803 based on the limited amount of information that we knew then. 63 00:04:15,083 --> 00:04:19,363 "British woman described yesterday how she hid in fear of her life 64 00:04:19,403 --> 00:04:23,323 "in remote Australian scrub, as she was hunted by a man 65 00:04:23,363 --> 00:04:26,363 "she fears had already shot her boyfriend in cold blood. 66 00:04:31,723 --> 00:04:34,803 "The two travellers, who have not been named, were flagged down 67 00:04:34,843 --> 00:04:38,163 "by the man in their campervan on a desolate stretch 68 00:04:38,203 --> 00:04:41,163 "of the Stuart Highway from Darwin to Alice Springs. 69 00:04:46,203 --> 00:04:49,243 "Their assailant, who is believed to be Australian, 70 00:04:49,283 --> 00:04:52,803 "said that he had seen sparks coming from the exhaust pipe 71 00:04:52,843 --> 00:04:54,883 "of the couple's Volkswagen van. 72 00:04:57,363 --> 00:05:00,323 "Seconds later, the woman heard a shot." 73 00:05:00,363 --> 00:05:01,803 GUNSHOT 74 00:05:03,163 --> 00:05:05,923 "The man punched her and bound her wrists. 75 00:05:10,483 --> 00:05:13,803 "He dragged the woman into the back of his truck at gunpoint. 76 00:05:16,283 --> 00:05:19,403 "Minutes later, while her abductor was momentarily distracted... 77 00:05:20,883 --> 00:05:22,323 "..she managed to free herself... 78 00:05:23,923 --> 00:05:26,123 "..and flee into the scrubland. 79 00:05:27,243 --> 00:05:31,083 "The 27-year-old woman crawled through the dry, spiky brush 80 00:05:31,123 --> 00:05:34,003 "until she was hidden from view. 81 00:05:38,603 --> 00:05:40,683 "The man searched for her for hours. 82 00:05:43,923 --> 00:05:46,083 "Eventually, the man abandoned the hunt... 83 00:05:48,763 --> 00:05:51,123 "..and the woman crept back to the road, 84 00:05:51,163 --> 00:05:53,443 "where a passing motorist picked her up 85 00:05:53,483 --> 00:05:57,243 "and drove her to Barrow Creek, a hamlet with a population of 20." 86 00:06:05,603 --> 00:06:10,683 That night, I was driving from Darwin, 87 00:06:10,723 --> 00:06:12,043 heading to Adelaide. 88 00:06:17,683 --> 00:06:19,563 It was dark. 89 00:06:19,603 --> 00:06:21,643 It was very dark. 90 00:06:22,843 --> 00:06:24,243 There was no moon. 91 00:06:26,723 --> 00:06:30,283 We had two drivers - one's sleeping, one's driving. 92 00:06:30,323 --> 00:06:32,883 I was driving along, I was just in the groove. 93 00:06:34,403 --> 00:06:38,123 Next thing you know, this thing flew out from the left, 94 00:06:38,163 --> 00:06:40,283 out in front of the truck. 95 00:06:48,003 --> 00:06:51,443 I thought, "Shit," you know? 96 00:06:51,483 --> 00:06:53,043 Someone's... 97 00:06:54,523 --> 00:06:56,003 Someone's under the truck. 98 00:07:01,563 --> 00:07:03,683 I was looking under the first trailer. 99 00:07:03,723 --> 00:07:05,283 I looked under the second trailer. 100 00:07:08,043 --> 00:07:11,083 I shone the torch under the truck and I said, "Hey!" 101 00:07:11,123 --> 00:07:13,563 I said, "Come here." So they flew under the trailer 102 00:07:13,603 --> 00:07:16,123 and latched hold of me, you know? 103 00:07:16,163 --> 00:07:18,243 And she had a bit of tape in her hair 104 00:07:18,283 --> 00:07:23,643 and she had these zip ties on her arms, 105 00:07:23,683 --> 00:07:25,443 done up like a chain, sort of thing. 106 00:07:30,203 --> 00:07:32,763 I was asleep in the bunk. 107 00:07:32,803 --> 00:07:35,043 The next thing, I heard Vince talking to somebody 108 00:07:35,083 --> 00:07:38,323 and I flew out of bed, threw a pair of thongs on, 109 00:07:38,363 --> 00:07:40,523 and as I walked around the driver's side, 110 00:07:40,563 --> 00:07:43,483 Vince was helping this young lady up off the road. 111 00:07:45,163 --> 00:07:48,123 That girl was that scared. 112 00:07:48,163 --> 00:07:50,563 She was petrified. 113 00:07:51,923 --> 00:07:53,763 I've seen a lot of things over a lot of years 114 00:07:53,803 --> 00:07:56,123 but that I've never seen before in anybody's face. 115 00:07:58,763 --> 00:08:02,763 I got the wire cutters and cut the cable ties off her. 116 00:08:06,283 --> 00:08:08,643 I literally had to use my little finger 117 00:08:08,683 --> 00:08:14,243 between her skin and the tape to cut it without cutting her neck, 118 00:08:14,283 --> 00:08:16,523 cos I didn't want to do any more damage to her 119 00:08:16,563 --> 00:08:18,443 than what she'd already endured. 120 00:08:21,003 --> 00:08:22,243 I just felt angry - 121 00:08:22,283 --> 00:08:25,443 the fact that some person could do that to another human being. 122 00:08:27,483 --> 00:08:30,443 And she was screaming the whole time, "I've got to find Pete." 123 00:08:33,003 --> 00:08:34,923 We said, "Who's Pete?" 124 00:08:34,963 --> 00:08:37,363 And she said, "It's my boyfriend - he's been shot." 125 00:08:39,243 --> 00:08:41,483 And it wasn't until she mentioned the gun... 126 00:08:43,203 --> 00:08:46,683 ..I turned around and went, "Let's get out of here." 127 00:08:48,163 --> 00:08:50,803 If someone's got a gun, we need to get the cops involved. 128 00:08:57,443 --> 00:09:01,323 Northern Territory Police, early on that Sunday morning, the 15th, 129 00:09:01,363 --> 00:09:02,603 found the crime scene. 130 00:09:03,643 --> 00:09:07,603 We found very little direct evidence, as such. 131 00:09:08,843 --> 00:09:10,563 We found blood. 132 00:09:11,803 --> 00:09:16,043 We found the Kombi, kind of hidden. 133 00:09:16,083 --> 00:09:22,323 And a drop of blood was found on the T-shirt that Joanne was wearing. 134 00:09:24,123 --> 00:09:29,283 We have found and have established a DNA profile of a male person 135 00:09:29,323 --> 00:09:32,883 on the clothing of Joanne Lees. 136 00:09:32,923 --> 00:09:36,003 It could be the offender. 137 00:09:36,043 --> 00:09:39,123 The DNA established it was a male person. 138 00:09:39,163 --> 00:09:43,323 We knew it wasn't Peter Falconio's DNA. 139 00:09:43,363 --> 00:09:46,443 But, sadly, there was no record of that profile 140 00:09:46,483 --> 00:09:49,763 within a database anywhere in Australia. 141 00:09:53,723 --> 00:09:56,083 The police were desperate to produce 142 00:09:56,123 --> 00:09:59,283 an artist's impression of the gunman. 143 00:10:00,643 --> 00:10:03,203 And they only had Joanne's information to go on. 144 00:10:04,443 --> 00:10:07,723 So, they arranged for her to sit in with a police artist 145 00:10:07,763 --> 00:10:11,043 who had questioned her about her memory of the gunman 146 00:10:11,083 --> 00:10:13,523 and the inside of the truck he was driving. 147 00:10:16,883 --> 00:10:21,083 Joanne Lees described her attacker as a man wearing a cap, 148 00:10:21,123 --> 00:10:22,723 with quite long hair, 149 00:10:22,763 --> 00:10:26,683 and also a droopy moustache right down by the side of the mouth. 150 00:10:26,723 --> 00:10:29,843 The problem with the Photofit picture was that 151 00:10:29,883 --> 00:10:32,083 there were lots of people around like that. 152 00:10:32,123 --> 00:10:36,443 A lot of people wear flannel shirts and have, you know, facial hair. 153 00:10:36,483 --> 00:10:38,563 So it could have been one of millions of people. 154 00:10:39,963 --> 00:10:42,723 Can you tell me your full name, please? Joanne Rachael Lees. 155 00:10:44,363 --> 00:10:48,003 The purpose of this re-enactment today is an attempt 156 00:10:48,043 --> 00:10:50,603 to reconstruct the events of an incident... 157 00:10:50,643 --> 00:10:53,163 A few days after the incident, 158 00:10:53,203 --> 00:10:58,123 the police decided to conduct a re-enactment of the crime, 159 00:10:58,163 --> 00:11:02,243 and for Joanne Lees to talk them through what actually happened. 160 00:11:02,283 --> 00:11:04,083 He comes in, er... 161 00:11:05,203 --> 00:11:09,523 ..more like that, and his keys come here. 162 00:11:09,563 --> 00:11:12,003 I clearly see the gun in his right hand. 163 00:11:12,043 --> 00:11:15,163 They thought that might jog her memory. 164 00:11:15,203 --> 00:11:16,763 How was he holding the gun? 165 00:11:16,803 --> 00:11:20,723 They thought they might find out something they didn't know already. 166 00:11:20,763 --> 00:11:23,923 At some point I started... I think I'm here or closer. 167 00:11:23,963 --> 00:11:28,603 I see the man lift the corner of the canvas. OK. 168 00:11:28,643 --> 00:11:32,963 Joanne went through the motions of how the gunman had attacked her, 169 00:11:33,003 --> 00:11:35,803 how he'd manacled her hands, 170 00:11:35,843 --> 00:11:39,283 how he'd pushed her out of the passenger side door 171 00:11:39,323 --> 00:11:42,883 and how she'd been later put into his utility. 172 00:11:42,923 --> 00:11:45,203 I'm not... I'm not sure. 173 00:11:45,243 --> 00:11:48,523 Re-enactments have their place. 174 00:11:48,563 --> 00:11:52,683 I think that it was pretty brave of Joanne to do that. 175 00:11:52,723 --> 00:11:55,563 I shout out to the man, "Why are you doing this? 176 00:11:57,003 --> 00:11:58,963 "Is it money that you want? 177 00:11:59,003 --> 00:12:00,923 "What do you want?" 178 00:12:00,963 --> 00:12:03,843 And I ask him if he's going to rape me. 179 00:12:03,883 --> 00:12:06,323 She did her best. 180 00:12:06,363 --> 00:12:07,803 But you got to reflect 181 00:12:07,843 --> 00:12:12,883 that this girl had been through quite some significant trauma 182 00:12:12,923 --> 00:12:17,323 and, from my experience, having a victim do that, 183 00:12:17,363 --> 00:12:20,683 sometimes you don't get the best information. 184 00:12:20,723 --> 00:12:24,523 I thought I ran into the bush over there 185 00:12:24,563 --> 00:12:26,803 but now that I'm here, know that he's here, 186 00:12:26,843 --> 00:12:28,363 I must have gone over there. 187 00:12:31,363 --> 00:12:34,083 Can you help me out? Did I run to that side? 188 00:12:34,123 --> 00:12:36,243 I can't recall which side. 189 00:12:40,923 --> 00:12:44,963 This was supposed to be a trip of a lifetime 190 00:12:45,003 --> 00:12:48,483 for Peter Falconio and Joanne Lees. 191 00:12:48,523 --> 00:12:51,483 They'd been together for six years. 192 00:12:51,523 --> 00:12:53,723 They met in Huddersfield, where Peter's from. 193 00:12:55,083 --> 00:12:59,963 Joanne was a travel agent and he was in the building trade. 194 00:13:00,003 --> 00:13:01,443 Joanne firmly believed 195 00:13:01,483 --> 00:13:05,563 that they would get married in Bora Bora on the way home. 196 00:13:09,283 --> 00:13:13,003 As a journalist working in Australia as a foreign correspondent, 197 00:13:13,043 --> 00:13:16,123 there were big stories all the time. 198 00:13:16,163 --> 00:13:18,803 But this was one of the biggest that I've ever covered. 199 00:13:20,323 --> 00:13:22,963 When I got to Alice Springs, 200 00:13:23,003 --> 00:13:27,363 I fully expected to meet a lot of other fellow journalists - 201 00:13:27,403 --> 00:13:30,563 the whole of the British press pack, for a start. 202 00:13:30,603 --> 00:13:36,043 And then we were outnumbered by Australian journalists. 203 00:13:36,083 --> 00:13:41,683 My brief was to find an exclusive for the Mail On Sunday in the UK. 204 00:13:43,603 --> 00:13:48,683 But Joanne was calling the shots and refusing to do interviews. 205 00:13:52,443 --> 00:13:55,003 I urged Joanne that, 206 00:13:55,043 --> 00:13:59,043 "Now is the time to go out and say what you want to say. 207 00:13:59,083 --> 00:14:01,203 "Now is a good time." 208 00:14:01,243 --> 00:14:04,443 But she wouldn't speak to the press at all. 209 00:14:04,483 --> 00:14:06,483 Joanne, is there anything that you'd like to say? 210 00:14:06,523 --> 00:14:09,163 Joanne's not... I think that was the instruction, 211 00:14:09,203 --> 00:14:10,883 that she wasn't going to say anything. 212 00:14:12,643 --> 00:14:15,483 Initially, people thought, "Well, perhaps she's traumatised. 213 00:14:15,523 --> 00:14:18,363 "Give her a bit of time, you know, be understanding, be sympathetic." 214 00:14:21,123 --> 00:14:24,723 But it wasn't long before suspicion started being aroused 215 00:14:24,763 --> 00:14:27,203 about why she wasn't prepared to talk. 216 00:14:29,243 --> 00:14:30,803 Was she trying to hide something? 217 00:14:30,843 --> 00:14:34,003 Was she fearful of being asked questions 218 00:14:34,043 --> 00:14:36,203 which she couldn't really satisfactory answer? 219 00:14:38,643 --> 00:14:40,963 Normally when you're covering these sort of cases, 220 00:14:41,003 --> 00:14:44,123 the victim or the survivor would be only too keen 221 00:14:44,163 --> 00:14:47,483 to give a press conference and talk about what happened, 222 00:14:47,523 --> 00:14:49,963 in the hope of trying to track the killer. 223 00:14:52,643 --> 00:14:55,443 The biggest manhunt in Northern Territory history 224 00:14:55,483 --> 00:14:58,963 has so far failed to find the gunman who shot Peter Falconio. 225 00:14:59,003 --> 00:15:02,723 Across the Northern Territory, the search for the gunman goes on, 226 00:15:02,763 --> 00:15:06,083 although police admit it's like looking for a needle in a haystack. 227 00:15:06,123 --> 00:15:08,483 There are 24-hour roadblocks. 228 00:15:08,523 --> 00:15:11,483 All cars are searched, drivers warned. 229 00:15:11,523 --> 00:15:15,083 Heavily armed police in bulletproof vests are ready for the gunman. 230 00:15:17,003 --> 00:15:20,163 Despite the intense public interest in this case, 231 00:15:20,203 --> 00:15:23,003 there's been no sign of the gunman. 232 00:15:23,043 --> 00:15:25,323 The police need some luck. 233 00:15:36,923 --> 00:15:41,643 Police discovered CCTV footage from a Shell truck stop 234 00:15:41,683 --> 00:15:44,123 in Alice Springs from the night of the attack. 235 00:15:45,203 --> 00:15:48,643 It was quite a significant breakthrough in this investigation. 236 00:15:50,643 --> 00:15:54,283 The CCTV had a man arriving in a four-wheel-drive. 237 00:15:56,163 --> 00:15:58,683 Appearance - certainly cap on, 238 00:15:58,723 --> 00:16:00,283 droopy moustache type thing. 239 00:16:01,363 --> 00:16:05,363 To some degree, a person that Joanne had described. 240 00:16:07,723 --> 00:16:10,003 Once the footage was seized, police sent that to 241 00:16:10,043 --> 00:16:12,323 the police technical unit for enhancement. 242 00:16:13,483 --> 00:16:15,803 But it wasn't successful by way of identification 243 00:16:15,843 --> 00:16:18,203 of the car and of the person. 244 00:16:19,643 --> 00:16:22,803 However, once the footage was released to the public, 245 00:16:22,843 --> 00:16:24,723 we saw an influx of calls. 246 00:16:26,003 --> 00:16:30,643 Probably around 2,500 persons of interest or vehicles of interest. 247 00:16:30,683 --> 00:16:33,123 It soon became apparent this was going to be 248 00:16:33,163 --> 00:16:35,243 quite an enormous investigation. 249 00:16:36,323 --> 00:16:39,003 We had thousands of pieces of information. 250 00:16:39,043 --> 00:16:42,403 It was Australia-wide, it was a national investigation. 251 00:16:42,443 --> 00:16:45,683 Considerable money's been spent. At this time, within six months, 252 00:16:45,723 --> 00:16:48,523 I think it was around about two million. 253 00:16:48,563 --> 00:16:53,323 And as the weeks dragged out and the months dragged out, 254 00:16:53,363 --> 00:16:56,403 there was a degree of personal pressure that I felt. 255 00:16:56,443 --> 00:16:59,003 There was a degree of, certainly, anxiety. 256 00:16:59,043 --> 00:17:02,163 We've said all along, this wasn't going to be easy. 257 00:17:02,203 --> 00:17:05,603 It's not easy at all. I'm confident we will catch the killer. 258 00:17:05,643 --> 00:17:07,443 I'm confident that the answer's out there. 259 00:17:07,483 --> 00:17:10,043 I'm confident that someone, at some point in time, 260 00:17:10,083 --> 00:17:11,963 will give us that piece we're looking for. 261 00:17:13,203 --> 00:17:16,083 Nervous police in Queensland and South Australia 262 00:17:16,123 --> 00:17:18,803 pounced on bearded men in white utes - 263 00:17:18,843 --> 00:17:21,483 but the real gunman has disappeared. 264 00:17:29,243 --> 00:17:32,803 Australia's Northern Territory is not a place for the faint-hearted. 265 00:17:34,323 --> 00:17:38,683 People regard it as perhaps the last frontier of Australia, really. 266 00:17:40,603 --> 00:17:43,723 It is really difficult to fully understand 267 00:17:43,763 --> 00:17:46,963 just how wide an expanse of land we're talking about. 268 00:17:47,003 --> 00:17:48,963 Roughly the size of Western Europe. 269 00:17:50,683 --> 00:17:54,283 There were a lot of hidden dangers here which, 270 00:17:54,323 --> 00:17:59,163 if you fall victim to, you can end up in a very unpleasant fate. 271 00:18:00,723 --> 00:18:02,763 That's what happened to Peter Falconio. 272 00:18:06,923 --> 00:18:12,243 The disappearance of Peter Falconio created a lot of ripples. 273 00:18:12,283 --> 00:18:17,043 We had diplomatic issues because we lost a British national. 274 00:18:17,083 --> 00:18:18,523 We couldn't find him anywhere. 275 00:18:18,563 --> 00:18:21,483 Wasn't down a mine shaft, he hadn't been eaten by sharks. 276 00:18:21,523 --> 00:18:23,403 We had no idea where he was. 277 00:18:25,283 --> 00:18:29,363 And the Australian tourism people were concerned about it as well. 278 00:18:31,123 --> 00:18:36,163 The centre of Australia started to take on this scary aura. 279 00:18:37,683 --> 00:18:40,563 And the police particularly were under a lot of pressure. 280 00:18:41,843 --> 00:18:46,083 The question was, is the Northern Territory a safe place to visit? 281 00:18:49,843 --> 00:18:52,443 And I would say, yes, it was - it's a great place. 282 00:18:53,643 --> 00:18:56,403 "But you've got a murderer loose, haven't you?" 283 00:18:56,443 --> 00:18:59,003 "Yes, we do, but we're investigating it." 284 00:18:59,043 --> 00:19:00,283 It's tough. 285 00:19:01,363 --> 00:19:04,003 Time and time again, we received criticism of the police 286 00:19:04,043 --> 00:19:06,443 and our capacity to handle the investigation. 287 00:19:08,483 --> 00:19:10,643 Do we have the resources? Do we have the skills? 288 00:19:10,683 --> 00:19:12,043 Do we have the experience? 289 00:19:14,043 --> 00:19:16,323 Of course my response was, "We do." 290 00:19:17,443 --> 00:19:19,043 Despite a nationwide search, 291 00:19:19,083 --> 00:19:21,523 the police in Australia have found few clues 292 00:19:21,563 --> 00:19:24,843 as to the whereabouts of Peter Falconio or his attacker. 293 00:19:24,883 --> 00:19:26,243 Eight months on and the mystery 294 00:19:26,283 --> 00:19:28,843 of Peter Falconio's disappearance in the Australian... 295 00:19:28,883 --> 00:19:31,403 It's almost a year since Peter Falconio disappeared. 296 00:19:31,443 --> 00:19:35,323 For 14 months, Peter Falconio's family has prayed he'll be found. 297 00:19:35,363 --> 00:19:39,043 The police still can't answer the question everyone wants to know. 298 00:19:47,723 --> 00:19:52,843 The manhunt went cold and nothing was heard for another year or two. 299 00:19:52,883 --> 00:19:57,803 Until the police got a tip-off about a man called Bradley Murdoch. 300 00:19:57,843 --> 00:20:01,763 Bradley Murdoch was living in South Australia. 301 00:20:01,803 --> 00:20:04,243 He had experience in mechanical engineering, 302 00:20:04,283 --> 00:20:06,243 although no real qualifications. 303 00:20:06,283 --> 00:20:07,923 He could tinker around with engines. 304 00:20:09,323 --> 00:20:12,923 Police discovered that he had served time in prison. 305 00:20:12,963 --> 00:20:16,243 And then they found Murdoch's DNA 306 00:20:16,283 --> 00:20:18,883 matched the DNA found on Joanne Lees' T-shirt. 307 00:20:20,243 --> 00:20:23,043 Brad, did you kill Peter Falconio? 308 00:20:23,083 --> 00:20:26,083 After an investigation spanning more than two years, 309 00:20:26,123 --> 00:20:30,523 detectives have charged Bradley Murdoch, a 45-year-old lorry driver, 310 00:20:30,563 --> 00:20:32,483 with the murder of the English backpacker. 311 00:20:37,883 --> 00:20:41,603 Joanne Lees positively identified Murdoch. 312 00:20:41,643 --> 00:20:44,003 I think it's number 10. 313 00:20:46,443 --> 00:20:49,723 We found that he had a similar car. 314 00:20:49,763 --> 00:20:53,883 And we had the DNA, which put him there. 315 00:20:53,923 --> 00:20:56,123 He was the person. He was the murderer. 316 00:20:56,163 --> 00:20:59,563 Bradley Murdoch, a self-confessed drug runner, has been convicted 317 00:20:59,603 --> 00:21:03,243 of murdering the British backpacker Peter Falconio four years ago. 318 00:21:03,283 --> 00:21:04,843 Under Northern Territory law, 319 00:21:04,883 --> 00:21:06,963 Murdoch faces a minimum 20 years' jail. 320 00:21:07,003 --> 00:21:10,723 A Darwin judge today jailed Murdoch until 2031, 321 00:21:10,763 --> 00:21:14,083 saying he's shown no remorse for his crime. 322 00:21:15,283 --> 00:21:18,723 Today marks the conclusion of an intense period of distress 323 00:21:18,763 --> 00:21:20,763 for myself and the Falconio family. 324 00:21:22,123 --> 00:21:23,963 This will enable us to take another step 325 00:21:24,003 --> 00:21:26,003 in the grieving process for Pete. 326 00:21:26,043 --> 00:21:28,123 We would now request you all allow us 327 00:21:28,163 --> 00:21:30,163 some space and privacy to do this. 328 00:21:38,083 --> 00:21:41,083 ROGER MAYNARD: This was essentially a circumstantial case. 329 00:21:43,163 --> 00:21:44,963 And apart from the DNA evidence, 330 00:21:45,003 --> 00:21:48,163 the police didn't really have a lot against Bradley Murdoch. 331 00:21:50,763 --> 00:21:52,523 There was no body. 332 00:21:53,843 --> 00:21:58,083 There was no gunshot residue found on the back of the campervan, 333 00:21:58,123 --> 00:22:02,603 and that's where Peter Falconio might have been shot dead. 334 00:22:02,643 --> 00:22:05,883 And without a body, and without a motive, 335 00:22:05,923 --> 00:22:09,403 you've lost two of the essential parts to a murder. 336 00:22:09,443 --> 00:22:12,323 Was Murdoch really guilty? 337 00:22:12,363 --> 00:22:13,923 This call is coming from prison 338 00:22:13,963 --> 00:22:16,723 and will be subject to monitoring and recording. 339 00:22:36,683 --> 00:22:42,043 I think people were equally divided on Murdoch's guilt or innocence. 340 00:22:43,243 --> 00:22:46,603 A lot of people felt great sympathy for Joanne. 341 00:22:46,643 --> 00:22:48,683 A lot of people thought she was telling the truth. 342 00:22:51,203 --> 00:22:54,843 But a sizeable proportion of people also had their doubts. 343 00:22:56,923 --> 00:22:58,923 Just going to touch up your schnozzle again. 344 00:22:58,963 --> 00:23:04,123 There was nothing about this case that actually made sense to me. 345 00:23:07,443 --> 00:23:11,083 Listening to this story, this just didn't sound right to me. 346 00:23:12,883 --> 00:23:17,003 And it made me wonder - did they get the right man? 347 00:23:21,923 --> 00:23:26,043 For 28 years, only ever defended, never prosecuted. 348 00:23:27,643 --> 00:23:33,963 I just preferred the challenge of getting somebody off, 349 00:23:34,003 --> 00:23:36,083 rather than getting somebody convicted. 350 00:23:38,363 --> 00:23:42,003 Over the years, I must have defended thousands of cases. 351 00:23:42,043 --> 00:23:44,563 Every type of crook you can imagine. 352 00:23:44,603 --> 00:23:48,523 Drug barons, businessmen, 353 00:23:48,563 --> 00:23:51,123 murderers - I've done the lot. 354 00:23:51,163 --> 00:23:55,403 I used to love having the reputation as being the go-to bloke, 355 00:23:55,443 --> 00:23:57,963 or one of the go-to blokes, if you were right in the shit. 356 00:24:01,683 --> 00:24:03,323 And then ten years ago, 357 00:24:03,363 --> 00:24:07,123 Brad Murdoch asked me to re-evaluate his case, 358 00:24:07,163 --> 00:24:11,403 to see whether there was any hope of any sort of further appeal. 359 00:24:12,603 --> 00:24:17,363 For ten years, we've been working towards a petition of mercy. 360 00:24:17,403 --> 00:24:22,723 It's a document whereby you set out, chapter and verse, 361 00:24:22,763 --> 00:24:25,443 everything you see wrong with the case. 362 00:24:26,923 --> 00:24:31,803 But a petition of mercy is notoriously difficult to get up. 363 00:24:40,843 --> 00:24:44,323 Round here. It's a bit warmer. Warmer than Melbourne. 364 00:24:46,443 --> 00:24:49,283 I'd never met anybody like Fraser. 365 00:24:49,323 --> 00:24:53,163 He was bulletproof, or he appeared to be bulletproof. 366 00:24:53,203 --> 00:24:55,323 Our friendship goes back about 30 years. 367 00:24:55,363 --> 00:24:57,523 We hung around the same places. 368 00:24:57,563 --> 00:25:00,363 We drank and we ate at similar restaurants and bars 369 00:25:00,403 --> 00:25:04,563 and kept on bumping into each other and became friends from that. 370 00:25:04,603 --> 00:25:06,163 We're very different from each other 371 00:25:06,203 --> 00:25:09,323 but we've been able to work ourselves into what I would describe 372 00:25:09,363 --> 00:25:11,363 as a formidable partnership. 373 00:25:11,403 --> 00:25:12,923 Righto, you're driving. 374 00:25:14,403 --> 00:25:15,923 I'm not a lawyer. 375 00:25:15,963 --> 00:25:18,563 I came from an advertising background, 376 00:25:18,603 --> 00:25:20,723 so I had to be taught what to investigate. 377 00:25:20,763 --> 00:25:22,043 We're off and going! 378 00:25:26,403 --> 00:25:28,723 When we first spoke to Brad, 379 00:25:28,763 --> 00:25:31,323 he told us a lot of the things that he really felt 380 00:25:31,363 --> 00:25:32,963 had gone wrong with his case. 381 00:25:34,043 --> 00:25:36,323 But it was one thing having Brad say, 382 00:25:36,363 --> 00:25:38,723 "This is wrong and they got that wrong." 383 00:25:38,763 --> 00:25:42,563 Being able to prove that, we had to start from scratch. 384 00:25:43,643 --> 00:25:48,323 Just have a look how many utes there are - one, two, three. 385 00:25:49,563 --> 00:25:53,163 You know, we always laugh that every second car in this town's a ute. 386 00:25:53,203 --> 00:25:54,803 Well, it's not far off the truth. 387 00:26:00,603 --> 00:26:05,083 The pivotal document in this case is the police file. 388 00:26:05,123 --> 00:26:06,523 That's not a single document - 389 00:26:06,563 --> 00:26:08,803 there's hundreds of thousands of documents in it. 390 00:26:12,603 --> 00:26:15,483 The materials that we got came from Murdoch's lawyers, 391 00:26:15,523 --> 00:26:17,763 the Northern Territory Legal Aid Commission. 392 00:26:17,803 --> 00:26:20,843 So, we got every supposed document that they had. 393 00:26:20,883 --> 00:26:23,123 And from there, we've been able to go through them. 394 00:26:24,643 --> 00:26:27,523 We wanted to find witnesses who might be able to tell us things 395 00:26:27,563 --> 00:26:29,803 that we don't already know. 396 00:26:29,843 --> 00:26:33,563 We might be able to find police reports that explain things 397 00:26:33,603 --> 00:26:35,723 that to us, at the moment, are question marks. 398 00:26:38,003 --> 00:26:42,363 What we want to do is re-examine the evidence 399 00:26:42,403 --> 00:26:45,283 that was relied on to put Murdoch away. 400 00:26:45,323 --> 00:26:49,443 That means that we've got to put every piece of evidence 401 00:26:49,483 --> 00:26:52,203 under the most intense scrutiny. 402 00:26:52,243 --> 00:26:55,323 This is a lot of work. 403 00:26:58,083 --> 00:27:01,003 It's as flat as a shit carter's hat, isn't it? 404 00:27:01,043 --> 00:27:02,803 Flat as a strap. 405 00:27:02,843 --> 00:27:06,883 Until you get here, you just don't realise how sparse it is. 406 00:27:08,243 --> 00:27:10,683 We've got the actual police grid references, 407 00:27:10,723 --> 00:27:15,083 so we're going to be able to exactly find where the crime scene was. 408 00:27:16,443 --> 00:27:20,483 In a murder trial, the evidence found at the crime scene 409 00:27:20,523 --> 00:27:24,123 is what the prosecution hang their hat on. 410 00:27:25,363 --> 00:27:27,883 But when I visit a crime scene, 411 00:27:27,923 --> 00:27:30,603 I look at it through the eyes of a defence lawyer. 412 00:27:31,723 --> 00:27:35,163 I'm looking for holes in the evidence. 413 00:27:35,203 --> 00:27:38,123 Holes that lead to cracks in the prosecution case. 414 00:27:40,003 --> 00:27:46,523 So far, everything I've read about the crime scene just doesn't add up. 415 00:27:55,323 --> 00:27:58,883 As a criminal lawyer, the very first thing you do 416 00:27:58,923 --> 00:28:01,443 is go back to the crime scene. 417 00:28:03,443 --> 00:28:06,763 That way, you get a much better grasp 418 00:28:06,803 --> 00:28:09,163 of what everybody's saying in their statements. 419 00:28:11,403 --> 00:28:15,603 According to Joanne Lees, on 14th July, 420 00:28:15,643 --> 00:28:20,923 she and Peter Falconio left Alice Springs and travelled north. 421 00:28:22,883 --> 00:28:26,563 They went to Ti-Tree, where they stopped for a short while, 422 00:28:26,603 --> 00:28:31,603 then they travelled on past Barrow Creek to the scene of the crime. 423 00:28:39,643 --> 00:28:40,923 Well, mate. 424 00:28:40,963 --> 00:28:42,803 Ground zero. 425 00:28:42,843 --> 00:28:46,683 This is exactly 100.3km from Ti-Tree, 426 00:28:46,723 --> 00:28:51,683 so we're within a metre or so of exactly where this crime scene is. 427 00:28:51,723 --> 00:28:56,323 The main blood pool, which is, or which was, the reference point 428 00:28:56,363 --> 00:28:58,563 for the entire crime scene... 429 00:28:58,603 --> 00:29:03,563 It actually is on the roadside of the white line, isn't it? 430 00:29:06,443 --> 00:29:08,603 Taking it from where the pool of blood is, 431 00:29:08,643 --> 00:29:13,963 the Kombi was supposed to be almost right there, 432 00:29:14,003 --> 00:29:18,043 with the attacker's car immediately behind. 433 00:29:20,163 --> 00:29:23,083 She says she's run for ten minutes but, in fact, 434 00:29:23,123 --> 00:29:28,123 the bush she hides under is down there and it's about 35 metres. 435 00:29:31,963 --> 00:29:36,123 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20. 436 00:29:36,163 --> 00:29:39,283 31, 32, 33. 437 00:29:39,323 --> 00:29:41,043 I'm about here. 438 00:29:41,083 --> 00:29:43,123 She's bolted a little bit south. 439 00:29:43,163 --> 00:29:44,723 More over this way. 440 00:29:48,123 --> 00:29:50,643 If Lees ran for ten minutes, 441 00:29:50,683 --> 00:29:53,843 she would have been lost deep in the bush. 442 00:29:55,523 --> 00:29:59,723 How is it, then, that she was hiding just a few metres from the road? 443 00:30:01,163 --> 00:30:03,723 Do you know, I've just done something else. 444 00:30:03,763 --> 00:30:07,363 As I walk around here, it's making clear footprints. 445 00:30:07,403 --> 00:30:10,603 Yeah. Now, they only found Joanne's footprints. 446 00:30:13,123 --> 00:30:15,403 Where's Peter Falconio's footprints? 447 00:30:15,443 --> 00:30:18,723 Where's the offender footprints? Where's the offender's dog? 448 00:30:19,803 --> 00:30:22,443 According to Joanne Lees, Brad Murdoch owned a dog 449 00:30:22,483 --> 00:30:26,443 that was described as an Australian working dog. 450 00:30:26,483 --> 00:30:30,003 There was no dog shit, there were no dog prints. 451 00:30:30,043 --> 00:30:31,563 Remember this bloke? Yep. 452 00:30:31,603 --> 00:30:33,923 Jack the Dalmatian. Yep. I mean, a bush dog. 453 00:30:33,963 --> 00:30:37,083 A bush dog would have found you, me, anybody in the bush. 454 00:30:37,123 --> 00:30:38,443 She's 30 metres away. 455 00:30:41,243 --> 00:30:46,643 What was unique about the crime scene is not what was there - 456 00:30:46,683 --> 00:30:49,003 it was what wasn't there. 457 00:30:53,923 --> 00:30:57,403 This is where the Kombi was located, 458 00:30:57,443 --> 00:31:01,643 and this is where the bloodstains were found. 459 00:31:01,683 --> 00:31:05,883 And here is an actual photograph, plus a scale, 460 00:31:05,923 --> 00:31:08,683 of the major bloodstain. 461 00:31:08,723 --> 00:31:14,083 My area of expertise is blood groups and body secretions. 462 00:31:15,483 --> 00:31:17,763 Before Bradley Murdoch's trial, 463 00:31:17,803 --> 00:31:21,643 I was approached by Legal Aid Northern Territory 464 00:31:21,683 --> 00:31:23,203 to look at the case. 465 00:31:25,443 --> 00:31:30,283 The blood that was on the road consisted of three pools - 466 00:31:30,323 --> 00:31:34,083 a main pool and two small pools adjacent. 467 00:31:36,043 --> 00:31:39,643 There is some of Peter Falconio's blood 468 00:31:39,683 --> 00:31:45,483 on the road and on small items at the side of the road. 469 00:31:54,443 --> 00:31:59,963 The area was examined by the forensic biologist using luminol. 470 00:32:00,003 --> 00:32:06,043 If blood is present, you get a pale blue luminescence. 471 00:32:06,083 --> 00:32:12,563 Now, if a body had been shot and then dragged somewhere, 472 00:32:12,603 --> 00:32:15,083 you would expect a blood trail. 473 00:32:15,123 --> 00:32:17,923 There was no blood trail in this case. 474 00:32:19,123 --> 00:32:24,923 Further than this, there was no blood spatter found at the scene. 475 00:32:29,763 --> 00:32:34,643 In my opinion, based on the DNA and blood evidence, 476 00:32:34,683 --> 00:32:36,723 I would not expect today 477 00:32:36,763 --> 00:32:41,163 to have a guilty verdict recorded against anybody. 478 00:32:46,803 --> 00:32:49,203 This call is coming from Yatala Labour Prison 479 00:32:49,243 --> 00:32:52,243 and will be subject to monitoring and recording. 480 00:32:53,563 --> 00:32:55,403 Hello. How you doing? 481 00:32:55,443 --> 00:32:57,563 Yeah, really good. Yourself? Not too bad. 482 00:32:57,603 --> 00:33:00,563 Er, you got a pen handy? Yes. 483 00:33:00,603 --> 00:33:02,043 Um, her name is 484 00:33:02,083 --> 00:33:05,603 Robin Bowles, B-O-W-L-E-S. 485 00:33:05,643 --> 00:33:08,203 She wants to come and have a bit of a yarn. 486 00:33:08,243 --> 00:33:09,883 Could you ring her? Mm. 487 00:33:09,923 --> 00:33:13,763 Just let her know I've put her name down on the visits list. 488 00:33:15,683 --> 00:33:20,163 Writing Dead Centre took me probably nearly three years. 489 00:33:20,203 --> 00:33:24,643 I drove about 35,000km around Australia. 490 00:33:25,763 --> 00:33:28,803 And I also had the pleasure of spending 60 hours 491 00:33:28,843 --> 00:33:30,643 with Bradley John Murdoch in prison. 492 00:33:33,643 --> 00:33:35,563 You always ask the hard questions first 493 00:33:35,603 --> 00:33:38,243 when you go and see people in prison, 494 00:33:38,283 --> 00:33:40,523 because they have the right to stop you coming again 495 00:33:40,563 --> 00:33:42,763 and I thought he might not want to see me again. 496 00:33:42,803 --> 00:33:47,723 So almost my first question - did you kill Peter Falconio? 497 00:33:49,323 --> 00:33:53,843 He said, "Well, no, I didn't, and how do you even know he's dead?" 498 00:33:57,243 --> 00:33:59,923 We don't know what happened that night, 499 00:33:59,963 --> 00:34:02,883 but Brad Murdoch is a really careful man. 500 00:34:02,923 --> 00:34:06,763 He's... He's obsessive about tidiness and neatness 501 00:34:06,803 --> 00:34:10,883 and all the little precautions that he used to take to run his drugs. 502 00:34:10,923 --> 00:34:13,763 You know, painting his bull bar different colours, 503 00:34:13,803 --> 00:34:16,283 just to change the look of his van a little bit. 504 00:34:16,323 --> 00:34:19,243 You know, he's not the kind of guy 505 00:34:19,283 --> 00:34:21,963 that would carelessly shoot someone on the side of the road, 506 00:34:22,003 --> 00:34:24,003 where anyone could be passing, 507 00:34:24,043 --> 00:34:25,723 put them into his rig 508 00:34:25,763 --> 00:34:30,723 that's filled with $20,000 worth of hydroponically grown marijuana, 509 00:34:30,763 --> 00:34:35,043 and then let the person who was a witness 510 00:34:35,083 --> 00:34:36,523 escape into the bush 511 00:34:36,563 --> 00:34:39,803 and drive off into the sunset as if nothing had happened. 512 00:34:46,003 --> 00:34:47,523 People often say to me, 513 00:34:47,563 --> 00:34:49,843 "What are you doing acting for a bloke like Murdoch? 514 00:34:49,883 --> 00:34:52,403 "He's a bad bastard - he should be in jail." 515 00:34:52,443 --> 00:34:55,523 Well, actually, that's not how it works. 516 00:34:55,563 --> 00:34:58,123 If you've got a bad head or you've been a naughty boy 517 00:34:58,163 --> 00:35:02,043 in some other area, it doesn't mean you go to jail for life. 518 00:35:06,083 --> 00:35:08,203 If Murdoch's not guilty, 519 00:35:08,243 --> 00:35:12,683 he's done 16 years in hell. 520 00:35:12,723 --> 00:35:16,003 And I know it's hell because I've been there. 521 00:35:18,403 --> 00:35:20,643 Andrew Fraser will be behind bars, 522 00:35:20,683 --> 00:35:24,243 mixing with many clients he's once defended. 523 00:35:24,283 --> 00:35:28,683 I regularly get asked - how did I end up on the wrong side? 524 00:35:28,723 --> 00:35:32,203 Don't think I haven't asked myself that question many, many times. 525 00:35:34,843 --> 00:35:37,123 It's easy to remember when it was - I can pinpoint it. 526 00:35:37,163 --> 00:35:40,723 It was the Saturday of the first Australian Grand Prix in Adelaide. 527 00:35:42,683 --> 00:35:48,403 I'd appeared for a bikie from the Outlaws the day before 528 00:35:48,443 --> 00:35:51,243 and he said to me, "You might want this at the Grand Prix," 529 00:35:51,283 --> 00:35:53,563 and gave me a bag of coke. 530 00:35:53,603 --> 00:35:56,283 I'd never used drugs before. 531 00:35:57,363 --> 00:35:59,643 And guess what - I liked it. 532 00:35:59,683 --> 00:36:04,803 And, er, before you know it, you're hooked. 533 00:36:04,843 --> 00:36:08,043 Supporting a $100,000-a-year cocaine habit, 534 00:36:08,083 --> 00:36:11,243 Fraser gave advice and encouraged the importation 535 00:36:11,283 --> 00:36:14,603 of cocaine worth up to $2.7 million, 536 00:36:14,643 --> 00:36:16,963 smuggled in African wall plaques. 537 00:36:18,523 --> 00:36:21,083 You know you've got a problem but you keep going. 538 00:36:23,483 --> 00:36:26,843 And it took a shattering experience, to quote my psychologist, 539 00:36:26,883 --> 00:36:28,923 to make me wake up. 540 00:36:32,763 --> 00:36:37,083 I received a total of seven years with a five-year minimum. 541 00:36:37,123 --> 00:36:39,203 What did I lose? I lost everything. 542 00:36:39,243 --> 00:36:42,723 My wife left me while I was in jail and I can't blame her for that. 543 00:36:45,283 --> 00:36:47,443 I lost my right to practise. 544 00:36:47,483 --> 00:36:49,643 I lost my professional standing. 545 00:36:54,083 --> 00:36:55,843 Lost the lot. 546 00:37:00,763 --> 00:37:06,483 But even though I'm struck off, you can't take that out of your system. 547 00:37:08,203 --> 00:37:11,683 It's like the old war horse with the scent of blood in his nostrils. 548 00:37:11,723 --> 00:37:13,603 You know, up he gets and off he goes. 549 00:37:15,843 --> 00:37:21,003 And the Falconio case just doesn't smell right to me. 550 00:37:23,803 --> 00:37:25,883 And I am convinced 551 00:37:25,923 --> 00:37:29,563 that there's somebody out there who holds the key to all of this. 552 00:37:33,363 --> 00:37:37,163 VINCE MILLAR: People that think they know the story probably don't. 553 00:37:38,683 --> 00:37:40,883 You know, who knows the story? 554 00:37:40,923 --> 00:37:42,243 She does. 555 00:37:44,283 --> 00:37:47,123 I know what part I played in it. 556 00:37:47,163 --> 00:37:51,763 But, you know, the police didn't get there till daybreak. 557 00:37:56,083 --> 00:38:02,083 There is so much more to this story than people have ever imagined. 558 00:38:25,003 --> 00:38:26,803 I can tell you one thing - 559 00:38:26,843 --> 00:38:29,923 it's a bit of a change of speed being a cow cocky 560 00:38:29,963 --> 00:38:31,603 as opposed to being, 561 00:38:31,643 --> 00:38:34,723 as they used to describe me, high-profile criminal lawyer. 562 00:38:38,683 --> 00:38:42,803 In 2011, I was diagnosed with multiple myeloma. 563 00:38:42,843 --> 00:38:44,843 It's a blood-borne cancer. 564 00:38:44,883 --> 00:38:48,323 I had a stem cell transplant in 2012. 565 00:38:48,363 --> 00:38:51,043 I've been good from then until only a couple of months ago, 566 00:38:51,083 --> 00:38:52,803 when it looks like I've had a relapse. 567 00:38:52,843 --> 00:38:55,003 No. Sorry, girls. 568 00:38:55,043 --> 00:38:56,403 Wrong way. 569 00:38:58,123 --> 00:39:03,123 Well, I think when I was first diagnosed and I sat in the car, 570 00:39:03,163 --> 00:39:05,523 that's when I was faced with the fact that, 571 00:39:05,563 --> 00:39:07,963 well, this could be game over. 572 00:39:11,003 --> 00:39:12,483 Go on! 573 00:39:12,523 --> 00:39:14,803 HE SIGHS You dopey bastard! 574 00:39:17,323 --> 00:39:19,363 I genuinely want to help this bloke 575 00:39:19,403 --> 00:39:22,803 because I genuinely believe 576 00:39:22,843 --> 00:39:27,163 he has had about the roughest end of the pineapple you could ever get. 577 00:39:29,723 --> 00:39:32,803 I think on some level, he wants one more case. 578 00:39:32,843 --> 00:39:34,883 He wants to just resolve this... 579 00:39:34,923 --> 00:39:38,083 This great wrong to someone who's been in jail for a very long time. 580 00:39:39,403 --> 00:39:42,843 Part of the Murdoch case for him is redemption - 581 00:39:42,883 --> 00:39:47,323 perhaps not so much for him but perhaps for his children, 582 00:39:47,363 --> 00:39:51,043 so that they have the opportunity to be proud of their father again. 583 00:40:06,083 --> 00:40:09,883 VINCE MILLAR: The Falconio murder has affected my life 584 00:40:09,923 --> 00:40:13,083 in the way that it... 585 00:40:14,963 --> 00:40:16,683 ..has never really gone away. 586 00:40:20,283 --> 00:40:25,443 I wish I was never, ever any part of it, you know? 587 00:40:25,483 --> 00:40:27,603 But, you know, you can't change history. 588 00:40:29,123 --> 00:40:30,523 You know, it is what it is. 589 00:40:39,963 --> 00:40:43,003 I shouldn't have even been there. I should have been home in bed. 590 00:40:44,963 --> 00:40:48,643 It was the first time ever that I was heading home. 591 00:40:49,763 --> 00:40:54,283 And the boss turned me around and sent me back to Darwin. 592 00:40:54,323 --> 00:40:58,563 Which brought me on that spot, 593 00:40:58,603 --> 00:41:01,403 on that night, at that time... 594 00:41:03,963 --> 00:41:05,443 ..on that day. 595 00:41:11,963 --> 00:41:15,163 Vince Millar was the first person 596 00:41:15,203 --> 00:41:18,523 that Joanne Lees spoke to after the event. 597 00:41:19,923 --> 00:41:23,883 He was the person that rescued, for want of a better word, 598 00:41:23,923 --> 00:41:27,283 Joanne Lees when she ran out on the road in front of his truck. 599 00:41:33,363 --> 00:41:35,523 Reading Vince's statements, again, 600 00:41:35,563 --> 00:41:39,643 there's one bit that continually catches my eye. 601 00:41:39,683 --> 00:41:44,683 Only minutes before Joanne Lees jumped out in front of his truck, 602 00:41:44,723 --> 00:41:48,603 Vince describes very odd behaviour 603 00:41:48,643 --> 00:41:51,483 on the road ahead 604 00:41:51,523 --> 00:41:53,043 while he was driving. 605 00:41:54,963 --> 00:42:00,883 Vince describes headlights in the distance, 606 00:42:00,923 --> 00:42:04,203 doing circles, 607 00:42:04,243 --> 00:42:07,803 lights going on and off - very odd behaviour. 608 00:42:09,243 --> 00:42:12,283 This aspect of Vince's story 609 00:42:12,323 --> 00:42:16,883 has never been followed up on or investigated. 610 00:42:18,923 --> 00:42:21,923 A few years ago, after a lot of trying 611 00:42:21,963 --> 00:42:23,963 and a lot of discussion, 612 00:42:24,003 --> 00:42:27,683 Vince finally agreed to talk to Victor and I. 613 00:42:27,723 --> 00:42:29,763 We went to see him at his home. 614 00:42:29,803 --> 00:42:32,763 We wanted to find out more about those lights. 615 00:42:34,043 --> 00:42:39,923 And he agreed to allow Victor to film the interview on his phone. 616 00:42:39,963 --> 00:42:42,683 You're driving along and you see in the distance... 617 00:42:42,723 --> 00:42:45,643 Cos you're sitting up a long way in those trucks, aren't you? Yeah. 618 00:42:45,683 --> 00:42:47,723 15 feet or something, I think you... Is that right - 619 00:42:47,763 --> 00:42:50,403 you said something like 15 feet? Something like that, mate, yeah. 620 00:42:50,443 --> 00:42:51,643 Jesus, it's a long way up. 621 00:42:54,763 --> 00:42:57,563 Yeah, but the point of that is, it's as flat as a strap out there, 622 00:42:57,603 --> 00:42:59,803 so you can see for miles. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. 623 00:42:59,843 --> 00:43:02,523 And just tell us... You say you saw... 624 00:43:03,803 --> 00:43:05,883 ..headlights, sort of, backing and shunting. 625 00:43:10,763 --> 00:43:13,723 One car doing it or more than one? Oh... Hard to say. 626 00:43:35,323 --> 00:43:36,443 And, um... 627 00:43:50,363 --> 00:43:52,043 Pulled up where? 628 00:43:52,083 --> 00:43:53,723 And then, er... And then... 629 00:44:15,803 --> 00:44:18,643 There's a red car 630 00:44:18,683 --> 00:44:20,843 and there's a bloke, you said... 631 00:44:20,883 --> 00:44:23,123 Your expression just then was "looked like jelly". 632 00:44:28,763 --> 00:44:31,803 Like... Like a ragdoll, sort of thing? 633 00:44:41,203 --> 00:44:44,683 Are we the first people you've told about the red car and stuff? 634 00:44:50,523 --> 00:44:52,003 Oh, no, no. What I mean... 635 00:44:52,043 --> 00:44:54,123 Yeah, of course you would - they're your mates. 636 00:44:58,923 --> 00:45:02,243 The way they got in that car and took off - 637 00:45:02,283 --> 00:45:04,563 there was something that they didn't want me to see. 638 00:45:08,803 --> 00:45:12,363 Well, thinking back now, putting all the dots together and that, I'm... 639 00:45:14,363 --> 00:45:15,563 I'm pretty sure... 640 00:45:17,043 --> 00:45:22,323 ..that the bloke in the middle very well could have been Peter Falconio. 641 00:45:25,883 --> 00:45:28,403 Now, after what Vince has told us, 642 00:45:28,443 --> 00:45:32,923 we're no longer just looking at Brad Murdoch and his white ute. 643 00:45:32,963 --> 00:45:35,203 Who were the blokes in the red car? 644 00:45:35,243 --> 00:45:36,883 Who was jelly man? 645 00:45:36,923 --> 00:45:39,003 And what were they doing there? 646 00:45:40,203 --> 00:45:43,443 Suddenly, there are all these other people in the frame. 647 00:45:43,483 --> 00:45:46,123 And that changes this entire case. 648 00:45:47,643 --> 00:45:51,083 She cheated on her boyfriend shortly before he disappeared. 649 00:45:51,123 --> 00:45:54,283 Lees was treated as a possible suspect. 650 00:46:24,763 --> 00:46:27,883 Subtitles by Red Bee Media